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 Post subject: En Bloc - Backgrounds
PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:07 pm 
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Topic for requesting, posting and discussing backgrounds for the VN.

Requested:
Street
College
Supermarket

Work in progress:
Dorm room

Finished:
None yet


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 Post subject: Re: Drunken Murder VN Project - Backgrounds
PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:38 pm 
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Is the dorm room gonna be one area? I think we'd need different shots, at least one of which is your closet thing that the girl will be shoved into


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 Post subject: Re: Drunken Murder VN Project - Backgrounds
PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:50 pm 
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yellowike wrote:
Is the dorm room gonna be one area? I think we'd need different shots, at least one of which is your closet thing that the girl will be shoved into

If the closet isn't visible in the BG picture, the text will take care of letting the reader know there's a closet.
As an amnesiac who's trying to find out who he is, there's no way he won't try to open the closet (but fail at it as it's locked and the key's in the trash bin).

The part where he finds the body will use CGs, so the closet doesn't necessarily have to be in the background.


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 Post subject: Re: Drunken Murder VN Project - Backgrounds
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:55 am 
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I'll get work started on the dorm now.


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Double Poasting in a BG Thread.

Here's what I came up after 2 days of free time:

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...Though I probably should have done landscape instead... ;_;


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I'm having trouble imagining his living spaces. Can someone (Anon1?) draw up blueprints/a schematic of the building's layout?

Will that be important at all to know?


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yellowike wrote:
I'm having trouble imagining his living spaces. Can someone (Anon1?) draw up blueprints/a schematic of the building's layout?

Will that be important at all to know?

Important things about the room:
-It contains a bed, obviously.
-It contains a closet large enough to hide a body, which also keeps the smell in (wall closet perhaps?).
-It contains something, such as a wall shelf, opposite the closet, that Roy would bump his head against if stepping backwards from the closet and not paying attention.
-Roy does not use his large closet for anything. This means he probably stores his clothes somewhere else, such as a dresser.
-My scenes have him grabbing microwave dinners from a refrigerator in his room..this is a small detail, though, as long as there's a place he can grab his microwave dinners from, anything can be changed.
-If he has a refrigerator for microwave dinners, he'll probably also have a microwave.
-He has a computer.
-I haven't put up any scene ideas with this yet, but I think it would be nice if his computer desk has drawers he can store miscellaneous stuff in. It would be a great place for David to pull the picture of Emma from (the one that he uses to remind Roy that he has a girlfriend).
-Between the closet and the head-bumping obstacle, there's enough space to lie down, even if uncomfortably.
-There's a trash bin right under the obstacle, conveniently placed at a place below where his right hand would be if he for some reason, you know, might bump into that obstacle while stepping backwards (and holding a key in his right hand).

That's all I can think of for now.

As for the sketch: I think it's a nice depiction of the dorm room, although some of the above points are missing and I think it's a bit too messy (the room looks like a general mess. It might be better to make the room pretty clean, so that (in the messy version) the empty beer bottles are the only messy things around, which puts extra focus on the beer bottles. If that sketch was meant as the version with beer bottles, then I'm afraid there's not enough beer bottles. It should be clear that he's been drinking quite a lot last night.

It can't be used as a background, though, for two reasons: the perspective is odd as a background, from a viewpoint that's a bit too high (imagine putting a character sprite in the foreground - if it looks really odd, that means something's wrong), and it's 640 x 800 (4 : 5), whereas the game will be 800 x 600 (4 : 3).

In other words; it looks good, and with some improvements it can be used as a BG.


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 Post subject: Re: En Bloc - Backgrounds
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:24 pm 
Notes taken. I'll put it back into my to do list.


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Sorry, above post was me.


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Hm, actually, if the room's going to contain a poster, we can use it to make a reference to another /jp/ project VN (for example, we could make it a Dandelion Girl poster).


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:13 pm 
2 separate VNs released, each contains easter eggs for the other VN. not bad


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Anon1 wrote:
(for example, we could make it a Dandelion Girl poster).


Yes yes! Let's do that.


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Lol. Also, I've come at a space-related impasse... All of those things will make the room awkwardly crowded.

I was thinking of two things:
1) It's okay, to make the room cramped enough to make the Protagonist look more bum-like.
2) I'll make a separate 'kitchen' room for the fridge and microwave.

If you guys would tell me which one you'd rather have me do, I'd appreciate it... And I'll get the bg's plans all ready quicker.

I've also been thinking about that large closet. What the hell does he need it for? Tools? If someone can answer me this so I can sleep tomorrow, since I'm sure I won't be doing so tonight.


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SHIKI Anon wrote:
Lol. Also, I've come at a space-related impasse... All of those things will make the room awkwardly crowded.

I was thinking of two things:
1) It's okay, to make the room cramped enough to make the Protagonist look more bum-like.
2) I'll make a separate 'kitchen' room for the fridge and microwave.

If you guys would tell me which one you'd rather have me do, I'd appreciate it... And I'll get the bg's plans all ready quicker.

Hm, I don't think an uber-cramped room would look very nice...as for the kitchen room, that's a good idea. We don't have to actually draw a kitchen BG for it, as long as it is implied that there's a kitchen-ish room there.

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I've also been thinking about that large closet. What the hell does he need it for? Tools? If someone can answer me this so I can sleep tomorrow, since I'm sure I won't be doing so tonight.

storing dead bodies STORING dead bodies storing dead bodies storing dead bodies storing DEAD bodies storing dead bodies storing dead bodies storing dead BODIES storing dead bodies storing dead bodies
Other than that, he doesn't really use it for much. Maybe he puts some small stuff he doesn't need in it, but it has to be empty to store dead bodies...it's best if the closet happens to be empty at the time he kills Emma so that would be the best place to hide the body.


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uhh besides the body thing as the reason for a large closet...

Did he get to choose his dorm, what if the closet just happened to be big when he got it? Maybe he just throws whatever crap's in the way like his clothes when his girl comes over


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Anon1 wrote:
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storing dead bodies STORING dead bodies storing dead bodies storing dead bodies storing DEAD bodies storing dead bodies storing dead bodies storing dead BODIES storing dead bodies storing dead bodies
Other than that, he doesn't really use it for much. Maybe he puts some small stuff he doesn't need in it, but it has to be empty to store dead bodies...it's best if the closet happens to be empty at the time he kills Emma so that would be the best place to hide the body.

NO. I meant it's previous use, dammit. Or did he really buy that closet to store dead bodies?

Also, I forgot he only had a dorm, so fuck me, since it probably came with the dorm. Anyway, on second thought, screw that. It's not that it's anywhere near important anyway why he has a conveniently large closet in his room.


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SHIKI Anon wrote:
Anon1 wrote:
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storing dead bodies STORING dead bodies storing dead bodies storing dead bodies storing DEAD bodies storing dead bodies storing dead bodies storing dead BODIES storing dead bodies storing dead bodies
Other than that, he doesn't really use it for much. Maybe he puts some small stuff he doesn't need in it, but it has to be empty to store dead bodies...it's best if the closet happens to be empty at the time he kills Emma so that would be the best place to hide the body.

NO. I meant it's previous use, dammit. Or did he really buy that closet to store dead bodies?

Also, I forgot he only had a dorm, so fuck me, since it probably came with the dorm. Anyway, on second thought, screw that. It's not that it's anywhere near important anyway why he has a conveniently large closet in his room.

Yeah...my original idea was that it was a wall closet. Generally you don't "buy" wall closets, or "put them in your room" - they're just in your room or they aren't (well, unless you actually build one into the room, but I don't think people do that very often in a dorm.
(At least, am I using the right term for it? If not, let me explain. Basically, you have a wall. In that wall is a door, but behind that door is a really small room that can't be used as anything other than a closet.)

As for its previous use; like I said, he didn't really use it. Or otherwise we'll need to come up with some other excuse as to why the closet was empty the night of the murder.

yellowike wrote:
uhh besides the body thing as the reason for a large closet...

Did he get to choose his dorm, what if the closet just happened to be big when he got it? Maybe he just throws whatever crap's in the way like his clothes when his girl comes over

Yes, that would be nice.


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